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Why Vista?

Slashdot aggregated an item indicating that when you play audio files in Vista, network performance slows down. Nobody's quite sure what's happening, nor (more crucially) whether it's a bug—i.e., accidental—or a consequence of a feature. If the latter, the feature is likely to be DRM, and while I don't get frothy over DRM if it doesn't get in my way—I don't for the most part use DRMed content—this is a case where Vista may well penalize users across the board for the sake of DRM, whether users are accessing DRMed content or not.

All the more reason to ask: Why should any of us bother with Vista at all? I spent a couple of hours the other night poking at Vista on my brother-in-law Bill's new laptop. The system seemed sluggish to me, even though it was clearly burning cycles furiously and did its best to cause second-degree burns on my thighs. (Note to self: Don't use modern laptops in your underwear.) The mouse pointer stuttered, as it does on my Tablet PC. I don't recall ever seeing mouse stutter under Windows 2000, which I have used daily now for almost eight years.

What's the value-add, then? I saw nothing in the UI that seemed anything other than needlessly different from XP or 2000, and certainly nothing that made the "Vista experience" easier to grasp or accomplish. I've heard the argument that Vista protects stupid users from themselves—maybe, a little—and while there might be a slim sliver of truth in that, my suspicion is that Vista exists primarily to protect Microsoft, and through them Big Media, from their users.

No thanks. That's a war I won't take part in. I've become a little worried about what will be on my next laptop—it certainly won't be a Tablet PC, egad—but was heartened recently as a friend received a slightly broken 2 GHz laptop from a neighbor who would otherwise have put it out on the curb. He replaced the keyboard with a spare purchased on eBay, and then nuked XP Home and installed Windows 2000 from a generic boxed copy. All the drivers for the specialized laptop hardware were freely downloadable. Now he has a Win2K laptop, without crapware or DRM booby traps, that runs like lightning and will not turn on him. Given that I use my laptop basically for Web and email access on trips, I don't need state-of-the-art. And that assumes that the state-of-the-art has significantly advanced on MS operating systems since Win2K. I'm not sure it has. Win2K already has symmetric multiprocessor support. Does Vista do it better? Haven't heard—and how effectively can our apps take advantage of the four or more cores you can now get in retail machines? MIT recently turned loose a 64-core CPU, expressly to see what software architectures can do with that many cores. (My guess: Without radical re-thinking and complete re-coding, not very much.)

As time allows I'm going to get a Ubuntu Feisty Fawn partition on my SX270 lab machine and spend some quality time with it. A lot of Windows software runs under Linux via Wine, and I haven't played with Wine for several years. Time to get back to it. Failing that, Windows 2000 may eventually become a compatibility layer for me, running in a VM so that I can maintain my Visio 2000 drawings and my InDesign 2.0 layouts. Vista's most significant feature may be that it isn't necessary. Paths to whatever you need to do on X86 hardware probably exist elsewhere. Keep looking. I intend to.

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Vista isn't necessary, as you say. Neither is XP. The only thing Microsoft has added that I care about in the last 7 years is remote desktop (which works better and faster than VNC, but I could live with VNC if I had to).

Microsoft is sitting around madly adding eye candy because they need to keep cranking out OS and app upgrades every few years to keep a revenue stream going. Bugs and incompatibility are their bread and butter. People upgrade their OS to get the eye candy. They upgrade their apps because everyone else is, and they need to be able to read the files.

So in a way, Microsoft may be the first company in the world that makes more money the crappier their previous generation of product was. Because for Joe User, "what are you gonna do, run Linux? Ha ha ha. Now gimme your money, stay on the upgrade train and maybe you'll get lucky and we'll make your stuff work someday."

When they announced that they were going to stop selling XP at the end of the year, I built a fully slipstreamed Windows 2000 install disc. Because it looks like I'm going to need it for my next machine.

They tried to give me a new machine with Vista on it at work. I told them I'd sooner set my hair on fire, and I'd just keep my old machine, TYVM. I'm on a team where everyone but me does windows development, but I'm doing Linux work, which is all on machines 1000 miles away; all I need is Firefox and a half dozen terminal windows. Oh, and Outlook, unfortunately. I'd still be happy with the 1.2 GHz machine, if it weren't one of those horrid Dell lunchbox machines. I took the last upgrade just to get back to a standard case machine.

If I could only get a good Linux driver for my printer and scanners...
Crossover Linux looks promising, and for what it does I think it's pretty cheap, cheap enough to try out and abandon if it doesn't do what I need. Crossover even runs Visio, though the main Wine HQ site doesn't list Visio.

The other alternative is to get a Mac and run InDesign for the Mac, and use Crossover Mac (or something like Parallels) to run Windows software on Mac hardware. Still researching it, but new paths seem to open (and become clearer) all the time.

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Yeah. What you said. Only I prefer to run a separate Linux and Windows box.

In the past, when I bought a new (Windows) computer, I'd load the old one up with Linux.

I think my next new machine will be a Linux box, and I'll keep my existing Windows XP system for Photoshop, Tivo Desktop, and other Windows-only apps.

The Linux rdesktop utility seems to work perfectly with XP's remote desktop feature, so I won't even need a KVM to use both systems.

After fooling around with Mandrake for years, Ubuntu Feisty was the tipping point for me, when desktop Linux became preferable to Windows.
I've never really been satisfied with Wine. Windows apps just always look wrong. However, The Delphi 7 IDE does run. I'm currently trying VMware server on Ubuntu 7.04 host for a guest Windows XP system, and I'm quite happy with that. VMware is not a straight package install - there's some googling and fiddling required.

I'm guessing that Win2K isn't so much trouble, but with XP, you need to hold off activation until you have installed all the VMWare drivers (after the initial WinXP install), since changes in "hardware" can trigger XP activation. Also best not to fiddle with some of the VM settings once you're going, for the same reason.
If activation is an issue, I'll just stick with Win2K. I have yet to find anything about XP that would cause me to prefer it to Win2K, and although I have a lab machine with XP on it--I need to be familiar with XP for professional reasons--all my paying work is done under Win2K, so that I can fool with hardware and not have to play that stupid "mother, may I" game.

There are still font issues with Linux. Windows always seems to render text better for some reason, though I keep hoping that this will change.
We've been running XP on PCs in my shop for some time and it works well. We haven't tried Vista yet.
What were your issues with tablets?

I know the technology is still maturing, but I've had the privilege of using two of them from Toshiba in my previous job, and the experience was so good that my wife decided to get a Tecra M4 herself. Linux support is (as always) trailing behind on it...but by and large it's actually really functional, even as just a normal workstation without the tablet functionality. I've usually been impressed with Toshiba's middle-to-upper class equipment (we've previously owned a Tecra 8000 and a Satellite 2805 and I've heavily used a Satellite Pro 430), and this was no exception.
My tablet is a Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad X41. It's a sluggish system with an immense amount of mouse stutter, juvenile UI Z-order anomalies in the task bar, and an inexplicable inability to recognize certain handwritten words no matter how clear the penmanship, including my last name. Although I value it as an ebook reader, and it does a tolerable job on email and Web access, it's close to worthless for anything else. Some of this may be due to Lenovo's mistakes--I have no way to know short of buying another tablet, which I don't intend to do.
Actually, some of the "office supply" type of retailers and CompUSA do carry tablets in-store. You would probably have to have them remove the display model for a proper demo, but it'd give you a bit more of an impression. The only downside is that they're less likely to carry the real performance models as opposed to the $1500-let's-put-all-the-crapware-we-can-on-this-thing system.

My wife's handwriting recognition is pretty good. She generally doesn't worry about recognition though, and just writes into OneNote and leaves stuff handwritten. This works really, really well for her as a physics major, since she can easily denote formulae and such, and with the right software, she can even convert formulas into LaTeX-style markup for use with papers.

The lack of quality from a Thinkpad puzzles me. I thought Thinkpads were revered for their workmanship. I guess that went out the door when IBM sold the company?

If you ever do get the chance to try a Tecra M4 or a Portege M200 (the ultraportable version - no internal removable drive and a smaller screen), I'd highly suggest it. Browsing Tablet PCs has been somewhat of a murky area since you almost have no choice but to order one and send it back if it doesn't suit your needs, but I wouldn't let this one instance deter you from it.
At work we use Win2003 Servers for development. Home is XP Pro for myself.

If I were to build a new system it would get XP Pro. If not that, then a flavor of Linux and then VMWare to run those Windows apps I just can't live without or desire to purchase new licenses for.

Good luck on your hunt.

Begat, Begat, begat.

I had to be dragged kicking and screaming from DOS to Windows 3. Then 3.1 came along, and WOW! What an improvement over the way we were doing things under 3.0. Then 95, and WOW! What an improvement!

And so on.

I'm now writing this on a 6 year old original install of XP Home, which is so crud infested it now takes around 7-8 minutes of continuous drive churning to boot up. Vista seems to come with all the crud already built in - no need to install 3rd party software. WOW!

My "important" machine runs 2k pro - it a 1.2 ghz machine, and it's snappy.

N8UX.

Crossover and/or VirtualBox

Crossover is a commercialized WINE package, purportedly with somewhat better support of Win32 programs. Virtualbox is a freeware VM similar to VMWare. You might try these as options.

I can say for much of the day-to-day stuff I do, Ubuntu (actually KUbuntu for the KDE desktop) works as well as anything available from MS. If not for the file-format issues, I'd probably chuck Windows out entirely.

Visio on Crossover

When I was trying to run Linux as my primary desktop at the office (of a Very Large Financial Institution), I found Visio ran, with minor glitches, very well under Crossover, as did most of the MS Office suite except Project.

Adobe packages were less successful, though I gather from the Codeweavers site that people have had reasonable success under recent versions.
We had to buy a new computer (my laptop was crashing amid my novel deadline) in the three week period that Dell was only selling computers with Vista. Given that it wasn't an option, we're actually mostly enjoying using it. It's mostly bells and whistles, from what I can tell, and I'm sure it's probably slow for the amount of machine we bought, but it's faster than my old laptop, and I don't have to worry about the hinge for the screen breaking and destroying my chance of meeting a deadline. ;) But then again, I'm a little less computer savvy than most of your crowd, so there are probably hosts of things that could be better if I knew enough to complain about them.